Holly needs to let them know that Andrew is likely a sex addict. I mean, 350 sexual partners!? He’s scummy. She should’ve walked away right then and there.
I am sorry Katie. Holly came on the show for the wrong reasons. Andrew yes he’s a d–k. However, Holly came on the show letting us know her biological clock is ticking and she needs a husband for this baby she so want. Holly made a big mistake staying knowing the type of bloke he is. plus Holly’s comes across as too desperate.
Communicating your needs explicitly to your partner is not desperate— it’s mature and healthy. It requires honesty and vulnerability to expose what others may shame you for. But you do it because it’s the right thing to do. There’s integrity in being authentic. And in that it’s one of the most giving things you can do for your partner as well. You allowing them to be fully informed about their commitment. It’s assertive communication, that’s healthy.
On the other hand —If your partner is a dick & you change how you act around them and watch what you say to avoid conflict … there may be some issues with power & control to look into.
And everything aside, even a “desperate” person doesn’t deserve to be humiliated or silenced. I mean why would you be a dick to someone with fears & anxieties … because they told you about them?
If anything, maybe be kinder.
**ps ~ for a good read on needs/relationships look up Attached the new science…**
I agree. Everyone should be transparent in a relationship.
Holly wants what she wants and she wants to go about it in the right way but it is also clear she doesn’t just want a donor. Any woman could get a donor.
She was (I suppose) picked by the experts, and they were supposed to find her a match. They failed, in my opinion. They are both in their right to wicsh for what they want, but they are no match together.
Is Judging and name calling helpful. No matter what a person’s done. I’m not defending any bad behaviour at all. But is calling someone that helpful? Just saying.
Holly….you behave like a crazy! Sorry…but you need to take some responsibility for your failed marriage…Andrew ain’t perfect but neither are you! Talk about full on…gosh Holly…you too much!
I guess everyone’s too brainwashed to see how blatantly manipulative Andrew is. The guy is a narcissist. All he does is talk in circles, insult Holly, then cry in front of the group to gain sympathy. Holly has every right to roll her eyes and not acknowledge him.
Totally agree! I love how Holly came in there owning her power. She was ready to be strong and move on from him! He has 2 failed marriages…her none. There’s nothing wrong with wanting to be a mom and getting close to 40 is making it harder for her. She is a bit full on but hey, SO IS HE! Im still trying to see where is his ‘motivational speaker’ side! I would leave if I paid to see him talk… ugh 😑
Lol, he isn’t going to sit in front of the experts because he wants to remain in control of how the group sees Holly. And still leave without any accountability for his narcissictic and delusional behaviour.
I really hope he shows up. The guy needs to be told that his behaviour is not acceptable by the experts. He may just listen. But I feel the name calling and putting him down in the comments above is not helpful. How does that make them any better then him. Constructive criticism telling him to cop on is the message people should write if he ever reads any of these. But upside. This is broadcast not only in Australia but in the UK and Ireland and I’m sure in many other countries. Women know his face and his behaviour. I hope he changes and gets help. He may be single for a very long time.
I can’t believe that there are women trashing a lady on a TV show in the comments here!!! Holly was clearly disrespected from the get go. Seriously ladies, we should not be talking like this about other women- we get enough of it from men. Also please remember we do not see the full story – just snippets. Perhaps he was much worse off camera. You cannot be as upset as Holly was for no reason and her feelings are just as valid as “poor Andrew”. Wake up!!!!
I don’t care if it’s a woman or man. If I think the person is wrong I’ll say so.
They both have their issues but Holly certainly isn’t innocent as she tries to make out.
I agree with you Lisa. Holly has not degraded him. Put him down. Manipulated him. She has shown him kindness and forgiveness. She could only take so much. It took guts for her to walk in move her chair and she avoided confrontation with him. She stepped away from the person who has embarrassed and demeaned her. Should she have sat there like a compliant wife put on a smile and pretend nothing has happened?
Agree completely with Lisa. Women have to support each other more, yes holly is a lot , but so is he,they both have strong characters. The big difference is that he is mean, unempathetic, and condesending. And no holly is not childish she listened to his apology, even hugged him, a man who said to her basically that she is a narcissist who is shit in bed. Come on that is being the bigger person, maybe she could have greet him at the party, but that is peanuts in comparison.
Seline and Anthony should be last ones to try and help….it took the pros to straighten them out! Both are guilty here of Expectation…this truly is an Experiment of Expectation for all of them.Some Hit the mark,others ? did not and still Willing to learn.Until you’ve been manipulated by a narcissist? it happens before you know it….Andrew has that tendency, Mitch is full on.Even Al who adores his looks,is not a narcissistic guy. It’s ok for Holly to be unsure and roll her eyes.He wrote Leave/ stay.Remember he said,he’s petrified of rejection.
I agree with Andrew when he says “you are displaying some narcissistic behaviour”, because she did not once take accountability for shouting and she belittled him by talking to him like a child showing him where the door is, that was spoken very catty like. She also was displaying to him what she was accusing him of doing. She said he doesn’t let her get a word in, but yet when they were talking with selin and Anthony she just kept barking and didn’t let him speak AT ALL! It’s all “you you you” to Andrew but he has taken accountability for everything he said and he tried apologising but she kept saying she was trying the whole time, but she wasn’t trying after he apologised, she kept saying she tried but she didn’t forgive him and try to move on, she held onto the past and had resentment. He was willing to move on and try make it work, hence why he apologised. But because she kept digging up the past and everything he just apologised for, this is why they couldn’t move forward. Grudge holder and no accountability for your actions holly.
How is it than when a woman talks to a man harshly and aggressively, she’s “speaking her mind”, and “standing up for herself”, but when a man does, he’s “aggressive” and “dismissive”? So only Holly is allowed to be like that and Andrew is just supposed to roll over and take it? She wouldn’t even let him speak when the others sat down with them. She treated him like crap the entire night, ignoring him completely, then gets mad when he wants to speak to her? I don’t get how that is okay. I think part of their problem is that they’re too much alike and can’t take their similar personality traits from the other. And another big fail, matching somebody who wants a kid with somebody who doesn’t.
For a young man like Al, he is being very sensible than any other people in this group. He broke the tension last week, and he is being sensible to Holly this week too. I really really like him. It’s high time Sam sees this sensible side of him and be more appreciate.
Thank you kindly from the Estados Unidos for the uploads. MAFS AU is by far the best in the franchise. Very confronting and I am here for all of it. We used to get it years later on Lifetime then it went on indefinite hiatus. You are a life saver!! Speaking of Lifetime, Andrew is the typical psycho next door to a divorcee mother of one (usually a girl child) in all “time to start a neighborhood watch” movies. He starts out all charming and helping with odd jobs around the house mam falls in love and cut to the chase the daughter ends up shooting Andrew to save mama’s life and scene.
Couple of things I noticed. Olivia has a J tattoo’d on her wrist. Quite a commitment for someone you just met? Secondly, when people in the group start acting out all of a sudden it is clearly something driven by the production team and it actually looks clunky. Like in the preview Olivia and Jackson are about to get after Holly over the way she treated Andrew… Nothing about this scenario looks real. Just sayin.
The emotional intelligence of Tamara, Olivia and Jackson is shocking. They understand nothing. I hope their friends and family watch the show and tell them how rubbish their opinions are. They come across as unobjective. Holly was so visibly shaken it could not be faked. I would like to think I would have shown her concern.
Andrew should not have been chosen for the show because of his two failed marriages. Holly should not have been chosen for the show because her desperation for a child seeps from her being. But what I don’t get is, if Andrew was THAT bad, why didn’t Holly write “Leave?” If a man spoke to me like Andrew did, I would have been out the door, period, end of story. Holly needs serious therapy. She needs to understand that she is enough all by herself and she isn’t a failure if she never has a child.
Holly and Andrew were never a match. I hate that the experts matched them knowing that they were not on the same page when it comes to kids, that is always a relationship breaker. Both of them are at fault in my opinion but Andrew is mean.
Andrew was mean at first but he opened up to her and tried to extend an olive branch, Holly couldn’t let it go and when he was fully present for intimacy week and she just wasn’t, and then continues to disrespect him in the dinner party. They both need to just leave
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Have the girls forgotten what Andrew said to Holly
He turned on the sympathy tears & they were all over him
He is like a psychopath
Holly needs to let them know that Andrew is likely a sex addict. I mean, 350 sexual partners!? He’s scummy. She should’ve walked away right then and there.
I am sorry Katie. Holly came on the show for the wrong reasons. Andrew yes he’s a d–k. However, Holly came on the show letting us know her biological clock is ticking and she needs a husband for this baby she so want. Holly made a big mistake staying knowing the type of bloke he is. plus Holly’s comes across as too desperate.
Communicating your needs explicitly to your partner is not desperate— it’s mature and healthy. It requires honesty and vulnerability to expose what others may shame you for. But you do it because it’s the right thing to do. There’s integrity in being authentic. And in that it’s one of the most giving things you can do for your partner as well. You allowing them to be fully informed about their commitment. It’s assertive communication, that’s healthy.
On the other hand —If your partner is a dick & you change how you act around them and watch what you say to avoid conflict … there may be some issues with power & control to look into.
And everything aside, even a “desperate” person doesn’t deserve to be humiliated or silenced. I mean why would you be a dick to someone with fears & anxieties … because they told you about them?
If anything, maybe be kinder.
**ps ~ for a good read on needs/relationships look up Attached the new science…**
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Well said Thank you.
I agree. Everyone should be transparent in a relationship.
Holly wants what she wants and she wants to go about it in the right way but it is also clear she doesn’t just want a donor. Any woman could get a donor.
She was (I suppose) picked by the experts, and they were supposed to find her a match. They failed, in my opinion. They are both in their right to wicsh for what they want, but they are no match together.
Totally agree Holly is to much hard work she comes across very highly strung
I wouldn’t touch him with a barge pole. Dirty stank
EXACTLY!
He is scum.
Is Judging and name calling helpful. No matter what a person’s done. I’m not defending any bad behaviour at all. But is calling someone that helpful? Just saying.
100 % 👏 and how he be-littled her saying he’s ace at sex ! 🤢 and he wasn’t feeling it with her 😤
This early bird also catches the worm before Ant 😆 gotcha
Andrew may have his problems but Holly is in no way innocent. I find her very difficult.
I agree completely.
Holly….you behave like a crazy! Sorry…but you need to take some responsibility for your failed marriage…Andrew ain’t perfect but neither are you! Talk about full on…gosh Holly…you too much!
Wasn’t aware Holly had been married
I know he has a child
Siehaam
It’s Andrew that has been divorced twice not Holly
I guess everyone’s too brainwashed to see how blatantly manipulative Andrew is. The guy is a narcissist. All he does is talk in circles, insult Holly, then cry in front of the group to gain sympathy. Holly has every right to roll her eyes and not acknowledge him.
Agreed
Agreed
Totally agree! I love how Holly came in there owning her power. She was ready to be strong and move on from him! He has 2 failed marriages…her none. There’s nothing wrong with wanting to be a mom and getting close to 40 is making it harder for her. She is a bit full on but hey, SO IS HE! Im still trying to see where is his ‘motivational speaker’ side! I would leave if I paid to see him talk… ugh 😑
THIS – she is emotional because he’s controlling and consistently belittles and shuts her down. HE IS A GASLIGHTING SON OF A BITCH.
Definitely
Lol, he isn’t going to sit in front of the experts because he wants to remain in control of how the group sees Holly. And still leave without any accountability for his narcissictic and delusional behaviour.
Exactly . Controlling the narrative.
I really hope he shows up. The guy needs to be told that his behaviour is not acceptable by the experts. He may just listen. But I feel the name calling and putting him down in the comments above is not helpful. How does that make them any better then him. Constructive criticism telling him to cop on is the message people should write if he ever reads any of these. But upside. This is broadcast not only in Australia but in the UK and Ireland and I’m sure in many other countries. Women know his face and his behaviour. I hope he changes and gets help. He may be single for a very long time.
I can’t believe that there are women trashing a lady on a TV show in the comments here!!! Holly was clearly disrespected from the get go. Seriously ladies, we should not be talking like this about other women- we get enough of it from men. Also please remember we do not see the full story – just snippets. Perhaps he was much worse off camera. You cannot be as upset as Holly was for no reason and her feelings are just as valid as “poor Andrew”. Wake up!!!!
I don’t care if it’s a woman or man. If I think the person is wrong I’ll say so.
They both have their issues but Holly certainly isn’t innocent as she tries to make out.
I agree. 100% well said.
I agree with you Lisa. Holly has not degraded him. Put him down. Manipulated him. She has shown him kindness and forgiveness. She could only take so much. It took guts for her to walk in move her chair and she avoided confrontation with him. She stepped away from the person who has embarrassed and demeaned her. Should she have sat there like a compliant wife put on a smile and pretend nothing has happened?
Agree completely with Lisa. Women have to support each other more, yes holly is a lot , but so is he,they both have strong characters. The big difference is that he is mean, unempathetic, and condesending. And no holly is not childish she listened to his apology, even hugged him, a man who said to her basically that she is a narcissist who is shit in bed. Come on that is being the bigger person, maybe she could have greet him at the party, but that is peanuts in comparison.
Hit the nail on the head – that’s the difference that matters most.
Seline and Anthony should be last ones to try and help….it took the pros to straighten them out! Both are guilty here of Expectation…this truly is an Experiment of Expectation for all of them.Some Hit the mark,others ? did not and still Willing to learn.Until you’ve been manipulated by a narcissist? it happens before you know it….Andrew has that tendency, Mitch is full on.Even Al who adores his looks,is not a narcissistic guy. It’s ok for Holly to be unsure and roll her eyes.He wrote Leave/ stay.Remember he said,he’s petrified of rejection.
Yes! You made some great points! 👍🏼
Agree with Dr O on all aspects
When do the next episodes drop? Is there anywhere to see a schedule?
Im wondering same thing.
Addicted and now constantly checking for a new upload.
Me too
Missing it
Andrew is disgusting.
He is the worst on this show. No wonder he was married twice before. I personally think he is creepy and he certainly thinks very highly of himself.
Arrrrggghhh I keep coming back looking for feb 17 episode hahaha
I agree with Andrew when he says “you are displaying some narcissistic behaviour”, because she did not once take accountability for shouting and she belittled him by talking to him like a child showing him where the door is, that was spoken very catty like. She also was displaying to him what she was accusing him of doing. She said he doesn’t let her get a word in, but yet when they were talking with selin and Anthony she just kept barking and didn’t let him speak AT ALL! It’s all “you you you” to Andrew but he has taken accountability for everything he said and he tried apologising but she kept saying she was trying the whole time, but she wasn’t trying after he apologised, she kept saying she tried but she didn’t forgive him and try to move on, she held onto the past and had resentment. He was willing to move on and try make it work, hence why he apologised. But because she kept digging up the past and everything he just apologised for, this is why they couldn’t move forward. Grudge holder and no accountability for your actions holly.
How is it than when a woman talks to a man harshly and aggressively, she’s “speaking her mind”, and “standing up for herself”, but when a man does, he’s “aggressive” and “dismissive”? So only Holly is allowed to be like that and Andrew is just supposed to roll over and take it? She wouldn’t even let him speak when the others sat down with them. She treated him like crap the entire night, ignoring him completely, then gets mad when he wants to speak to her? I don’t get how that is okay. I think part of their problem is that they’re too much alike and can’t take their similar personality traits from the other. And another big fail, matching somebody who wants a kid with somebody who doesn’t.
Does anyone have a link for episode 13 to watch in the UK pleaseee
Don’t know why we haven’t got episode 13 in U.K.
Hope we are going to see it
Where the heck is Ep 13? Come on!!
For a young man like Al, he is being very sensible than any other people in this group. He broke the tension last week, and he is being sensible to Holly this week too. I really really like him. It’s high time Sam sees this sensible side of him and be more appreciate.
Thank you kindly from the Estados Unidos for the uploads. MAFS AU is by far the best in the franchise. Very confronting and I am here for all of it. We used to get it years later on Lifetime then it went on indefinite hiatus. You are a life saver!! Speaking of Lifetime, Andrew is the typical psycho next door to a divorcee mother of one (usually a girl child) in all “time to start a neighborhood watch” movies. He starts out all charming and helping with odd jobs around the house mam falls in love and cut to the chase the daughter ends up shooting Andrew to save mama’s life and scene.
Couple of things I noticed. Olivia has a J tattoo’d on her wrist. Quite a commitment for someone you just met? Secondly, when people in the group start acting out all of a sudden it is clearly something driven by the production team and it actually looks clunky. Like in the preview Olivia and Jackson are about to get after Holly over the way she treated Andrew… Nothing about this scenario looks real. Just sayin.
The emotional intelligence of Tamara, Olivia and Jackson is shocking. They understand nothing. I hope their friends and family watch the show and tell them how rubbish their opinions are. They come across as unobjective. Holly was so visibly shaken it could not be faked. I would like to think I would have shown her concern.
Andrew should not have been chosen for the show because of his two failed marriages. Holly should not have been chosen for the show because her desperation for a child seeps from her being. But what I don’t get is, if Andrew was THAT bad, why didn’t Holly write “Leave?” If a man spoke to me like Andrew did, I would have been out the door, period, end of story. Holly needs serious therapy. She needs to understand that she is enough all by herself and she isn’t a failure if she never has a child.
Holly and Andrew were never a match. I hate that the experts matched them knowing that they were not on the same page when it comes to kids, that is always a relationship breaker. Both of them are at fault in my opinion but Andrew is mean.
Andrew was mean at first but he opened up to her and tried to extend an olive branch, Holly couldn’t let it go and when he was fully present for intimacy week and she just wasn’t, and then continues to disrespect him in the dinner party. They both need to just leave